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December 12th, 2006 · 1 Comment

My wikipedia hell…the prevailing idea behind wikipedia is that individuals contribute out of their goodness… but of course there is no free lunch in life and a great number of the contributions are placed in order to get that valuabe reference link at the bottom of the page.

But as with any ’social envoronment, you get imbalances, you get power hungry *ankers who think they can go about doing as they please in the name of wikipedia. Just think of the last time you got a parking ticket from a gloating, self rightious parking attendant, the one that hangs around your car till its one minute past the ‘over time’ - this is how i feel about the wikipedia police.

below is how my story went :

i added this :

A web site has search engine prominence (SEP) when its content is ranked highly amongst the search engines. Webmasters build search engine prominence through building as large and relevant link inventory as possible.

A website can be prominent without being well search engine optimised, however a well optimised site may not be prominent if it does not have a sufficient link inventory to compete in popular search terms.

SEP should not be confused with SEO (search engine optimisation). SEO is to do with elements a webmaster can control i.e. content manipulation. SEP relates to activities undertaken by 3rd parties like placing a link to your website.
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* 1 Why sites enjoy search engine prominence
* 2 How webmasters build up search engine prominence
* 3 Dangers of sponsored link acquisition
* 4 References

[edit] Why sites enjoy search engine prominence

Typically such websites which have prominence, enjoy a large inventory of Inbound links or backlinks. The greater the number of links and the higher the ‘quality’ of these inbound links, the greater the prominence of relevant keywords (Keyword (Internet search)) in such a web site.

For example, Wikipedia enjoys a massive inventory of inbound links, or inlinks, which subsequently makes its extemely prominent in search engine listings across a great spread of keywords.

[edit] How webmasters build up search engine prominence

Webmasters typically either rely on the attractiveness of their website’s content to attract inbound links, or they actively set up Link bait, which attracts inbound links from webmasters. Webmasters also run online PR or Seo pr campaigns, but at the time of writing, SEO pr has not been widely adopted by the Public relations community as it is still a very specialised arena.

They can build a web sites prominence by purchasing links from 3rd party website owners, these are known as Sponsored links.

They can also enter into Pay per click campaigns to ensure they have visability amongst search engines. These include Google Adwords, Microsoft adCenter and Yahoo! Search Marketing.

[edit] Dangers of sponsored link acquisition

Search engines can recognise the patterns shown from purchased link acquisition. Google more than other search engines regard this attempt at search engine prominence potentially as Spamdexing and so will either penalise or not recognise these additional inbound links to a given site. Typically search engines will look at the rate of growth of inbound links and the similarity of the link text to determine wether it is Organic linking or inorganic linking Italic text

[edit] References
^ Microsoft Bcentral. PPC & Search engine Prominence.
^ Market Sentinel Spamming your way to search engine prominence.
^ webstrategy.com.au How do I improve my search engine ranking?
^ Internet marketing for your tourism business Chapter 3 Designing Your Site for Search Engine Prominence.
^ SEOMoz Blog Spammers Can’t Call Themselves SEOs
^ To Blog or no to blog Blogs are also a great way to get higher search engine prominence
^ PR Web Search Engine Submission: Is it a Necessity or a Liability?

they said :
Not standard terminology

“Search engine prominence” is not (yet) really standard terminology, so I wonder if an article is justified. A Google search on the phrase returns only 542 hits, compared with over 36 million for “search engine optimization” and over 23 million for “search engine marketing”. Are there source references, or would this fall under (Wikipedia’s policy against original research)? –IslandGyrl 22:32, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

i reincluded the text and edited it

they took it out and I said:
reason for re inclusion

from the writer of the article: I work as a professional search engine marketeer and in order to explain the difference between optimisation i.e. stuff they can control and prominence whicih is stuff they can’t directly control i came up with the term; search engine prominence.

normally I wouldnt feel that strongly about this issue except that for me and my clients it all makes complete sense. After all how much sense does link bait make ? All i’m doing is defining something which is not well defined at the moment. other related terms are linkbait, in linking, backlinking etc, but none of these deal with the core concept of search engines seeing one site as more important/prominent than another and ranking keywords accordingly….. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sepguy (talk • contribs).

Please read WP:OR. Wikipedia is not for things you made up yourself. — RockMFR 03:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

They took it out again and I said

reason for re-re inclusion

Hi, you can tell, I’m being persistant with this, mainly because I relly feel it should be included into wikipedia. I didnt come up with the term and i have cited references on the article - so please can this remain this time …sepguy

and they have taken it out again. So having had a look at who did the deleting I found their trail:

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Articles this editor has interfered with - see if you can see a pattern…the patten is - no pattern

- what the * uck does this person know about search engine prominence ?!@{!
So I give up and i hope the spammers have better luck than me.

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1 response so far ↓

  • 1 5 Reasons Wikipedia is doomed ! // Jan 23, 2007 at 2:53 pm

    [...] 5. ever heard of a wiki nazi? with any society, when the ‘police’ get out of control it turns ugly. I think of my personal wikipedia experiences HERE and the laughable case of the linkbait page where all the references to Matt Cutts the google engineer and blogger were savagely culled. They were only reinstated after uproar from the SEO community. Fools. So in conclusion, I see too much power with too few. fast erosion of goodwill. open day for the spamming community. dictatorship with a community front. Too many things on the boil at one time. And the core principles of ‘give and take’ being eroded with Wiki. All this will probably come to an unhappy ending much like DMOZ [...]

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